Unconventional thinking about the Middle East.

Tuesday, November 21, 2006

Talk on Iraq at the Hudson Institute

I participated in a talk about Iraq at the Hudson Institute today. It was carried by C-SPAN, so you can watch it here (automatically opens a RealPlayer window). The other speaker was Abdul-Aziz Wandawi, Director General of Information at the De-Ba'athification Commission.

28 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw it live in the morning. Very good show. Very compelling and convincing. Thanks.

R

5:05 PM, November 21, 2006

 
Anonymous Jeffrey Quintero said...

I am very impressed on your unique perspective about "who is winning?"

I have not heard any one any where speaking with the authority that you posses. It is a view that must be brought into the mainstream dialog about what to do next.

Particularly, your understanding of distinctions about identity. It is the essential issue that needs to be understood, before making any decision about Who is winning what?; and, establish the very important perspective that a new Iraq is in fact emerging.

I would suggest that you, more than any one else in this dialog, do have the specific knowledge and experience to produce a report to demosntrate "The Emerging New Iraq"

This might be the necessary vision that would actually consolidate all the required forces to making the emerging new Iraq a reality.

I comend you, and thank you.

12:54 PM, November 22, 2006

 
Anonymous John Scepanski said...

I am skeptical of all information about and from Iraq. Having seen your commentary on the C-SPAN program, it is a fresh and refreshing experience.

Clearly, this is a propaganda war as much as any other kind, and the comments comparing the Vietnam war Tet offensive were in my opinion valid. Military conflict is only one facet of war, and as Mr. Quintero above notes, the question of who is winning is a matter of perspective.

I'd like to see our (U.S.) role in this addressed more in the terms of Baathist Nazi-like doctrine, behavior and threat and less U.S. leaders' dancing around about WMD and the "war on terror" (and oil of course). The Nazi comparison, having some credibility in middle eastern, recent history makes it easier to sell to us practical, pragmatic, and impatient Americans.

I don't want to see us get involved in a propaganda war as much as in a war of information against propaganda. Telling the factual truth with sources should be a hallmark of American involvement. Forgive me for saying so, but the current U.S. government's reliance on the Iraqi National Congress, pre-war, information does not add to credibility in this matter.

3:04 PM, November 22, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

your show made me wretch. I can't believe someone who is associated with the war criminal hhmed chalabi is allowed on our soil. Please leave our country. we hate you. You and wurmser are terrorists. go to hell

6:17 PM, November 22, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw the talk on C-SPAN today. We don't get much inside perspective on Iraq here. Most information is filtered through U.S. political perspectives and agendas (like the post above). Your highly nuanced view of the people of Iraq is close to a revelation. It was so powerful that the member of the Baker Commission, who at first challenged you, took the microphone and came to your defense as a man of reason when you were confronted by a questioner with yet another apparent agenda. Please continue to air your perspective whenever possible.

6:31 PM, November 22, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

on the moon or at the bottom of thoe ocean would be a great place for your next presentation. be sure to thank Wurmser for all she's done for the palestinian liberation movement. without the iraqi quagmire no one would know what a neo con was. you all have accomplished more than saddam or arafat ever could in promoting the destruction of israel.

9:38 AM, November 23, 2006

 
Anonymous amused said...

on the moon or at the bottom of thoe ocean would be a great place for your next presentation. be sure to thank Wurmser for all she's done for the palestinian liberation movement. without the iraqi quagmire no one would know what a neo con was. you all have accomplished more than saddam or arafat ever could in promoting the destruction of israel.

I find it amusing you blame those who have been wanting to create a stable, democratic, Israel-friendly, Iraq for the current chaos rather than blame those who are causing the current chaos (Sunni Arab terrorists, Baathists, al Qaeda, etc,..).

2:12 AM, November 24, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nibras,

I'm not sure the situation of America in Iraq is the zero-sum game you describe - "If America is losing who is winning?" It may just be that Iraq is losing. I'm not one who relishes in this thought. I supported the liberation of the Iraqis and I still want the country to be free, open, safe, and prosperous.

12:16 PM, November 24, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

amused- there will and can never be an iraq which is both stable and friendly to the state of israel. guys like chalabi convinced the US they could do the impossible. not surprisingly they failed and in fact, insured the destruction of the jewish state. and probably the US with it. The fact that they would show their face in public much less in the US at an alleged think tank speaks to their hubris and lack of conscience.

It doesn't matter. steps are being taken to insure it never happens again.

4:03 PM, November 24, 2006

 
Anonymous Amused said...

amused- there will and can never be an iraq which is both stable and friendly to the state of israel. guys like chalabi convinced the US they could do the impossible. not surprisingly they failed and in fact, insured the destruction of the jewish state. and probably the US with it. The fact that they would show their face in public much less in the US at an alleged think tank speaks to their hubris and lack of conscience.

It doesn't matter. steps are being taken to insure it never happens again.


The scenarios which you mentioned above will only materialize should the terrorists fully win the battle in Iraq and take control of the country.

It's clear that such a situation, Thank God, has not occurred yet. The only way to prevent such a situation is for the coalition forces to heavily arm the government and give them a free hand in destroying the insurgency and its areas of support.

Unfortunately, the US/coalition forces haven't given the Iraqi government the opportunity to do that.

5:39 PM, November 24, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

the iraqi govt fully supports Irans right to enrich uranium and hezbollah's right to defend lebanon. where exactly are you drawing the line between insurgency and government? certainly not at anti americanism or anti zionism.

am I part of the insurgency because I want us out of Iraq? In that case most of america are terrorists. no, the real terrorists are the iraqi national congress and other liars and war profiteers.

10:59 AM, November 25, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Lester,

You are saying that the insurgents are NOT terrorists. Which makes you an insurgent sympathizer. The FBI should be after people like you because your a TRAITOR TO AMERICA.

The Patriot

2:09 PM, November 25, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

the patriot- I think the FBI is more interested in people like the man who does this blog than the 70% of americans who are, according to you, terrorist sympathizers.

2:32 PM, November 25, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey Lesster:

You don't deny that you support the insurgents then right? That is called treason and you belong in Gitmo with the rest of your buddies.

The Patriot

2:47 PM, November 25, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

the patriot- I'll go tomorow morning right away. meanwhile, what do you think of this blog?
do you think it's cool for a associate of ahmed chalabi to be posting his musings on Iraq? A guy who has taken millions and millions of US tax payer dollars to enhance his own personal wealth while leading us into the iraqi quagmire, the great depression of our time?

don't you think he should be doin something more substantial for the war effort than joking about torture and various imams?

like fighting to secure baghdad with our armed forces. perhaps working as a translator. or maybe telling the truth about how we were lied into this war.



where were the mobile chemical weapons labs? why don't you do a topic about that? You all said you knew where they were. You must see "curveball" from time to time.

3:03 PM, November 25, 2006

 
Anonymous les said...

the last paragraph was directed at the author of the blog, not the previous poster. sorry if there was any confusion.

3:37 PM, November 25, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lester,

maybe you have not read what is on this blog. it is a valuable resource for all iraq watchers.you should read a little before judging the cover.

To nibras--keep up the good work. we need your voice in this debate. those trying to silence you are intimidated by your sensible analysis.

8:48 PM, November 25, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

anon- I've read it. he's phoning in random observations so he can justify what the hudson institute and probably our government pay him. "al queda approves of US election results" yeah that's worth it's weight in gold that one. almost as good as the "intel" on the mobile chemical weapons labs.

6:07 AM, November 26, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But lester are you denying that this terrorist abu hamza said what he said which means that you are in denial. i think this is what got you so angry is that kazimi wrote that alqaeda is happy about the elections but that is what they said so how can you deny it???? but you also said some crazy shit like the neocons are planning the destruction of israel and america too. that just means youre crazy. one of thse people tihout a life who just sits on his keyboard to write conspiracy theories. plus the author here is using his real name and you are hiding your own what does that say about you. maybe you are deepdpwn ashamed of your ideas.

6:57 AM, November 26, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

anonymous- who are you?

7:02 AM, November 26, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lester:

i am not the one making these big accusations. if we dont know who you are and your qualification then how can we take what you say seriously when to begin with it is very controversial. why should we care about what you say???if you were like a scholar or a thinker or a journalist you may know something about what youre wrting. but being anonymous you sound like just a crackpot with too much time to waster. you should read more like the archives too. it is all good and not what you get sppoonfed by the msm.

10:30 AM, November 26, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

anonymous- You're right. I'm sorry. it was silly of me to be angry about the thousands of americans killed in this war, the mothers who will never seen their sons and daughters again. who will look over at their empty place at the table every night and have to deal with the pain of their tragic, preventable deaths for the rest of their lives.
I now realize i should just relax and get into the neoconservative jokes. again, sorry

11:17 AM, November 26, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lester:

but what you are saying that the neocons and chalabi and kazimi did this on purpose. they wanted to make american mothers cry. you also say that they wanted to destruy israel and america. do you think the necons were behing 911????or are they the real insurgents???? is bin laden and abu hamza figments ouf our imaginations too??? to make such accusation you should tell us why you are qualified to make them. becuase anyone can say anything on the internet.

i am not a neocon but i know hot air when i smell it. i have concerns too and that is why i try to stay informed from many sources like this blog. we need to look at all opinions. sorry anyway if i was harsh on you but you have to be more responsible for what you say.

11:54 AM, November 26, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay I have to tell you this?

WHY THE HELL ARE YOU NOT RUNNING THAT COUNTRY?

Great talk.

8:15 PM, November 26, 2006

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey leter, fuck you man. how about the iraqi dead? huh?? i have yet to hear your pathatic excuse of a human being mention the iraqis deaths? or do they not count?

do your sad self a favor and shoot yourself to death.

8:18 PM, November 26, 2006

 
Anonymous lester said...

anonymous- You are right I should have mentioned the iraqi deaths. They are equally sad and were equally preventable.

other anonymous- it was you not I who said the stuff about the neo cons causing 9/11 and all that. I'm not a conspiracy theorist. I'm saying these have been the results. The intentions were quite different. I don't imagine mr chalabi and co were trying to do what they ended up doing: undermining america and democracy. I think they just wanted to own starbucks franchises in george bush's colonial iraq.

11:40 AM, November 27, 2006

 
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