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Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Muqtada Cries Uncle, Saddam Money Influenced Leftist Congressmen

It seems that Muqtada al-Sadr has thrown in the towel: according to this declaration allegedly signed by him, al-Sadr is ordering his followers to put down their arms and to refrain from targeting government troops. The source is Buratha News, which is affiliated with Sheikh Jalaleddin al-Saghir who is a leading parliamentarian and a member of the Supreme Islamic Council an organization that rivals, and is often in conflict with, Mr. al-Sadr. But otherwise, I have no reason to doubt the authenticity of this document; we’ll know more tomorrow.

Muthana al-Hanooti turns out to be an asset of Saddam’s intelligence service: Well, Hanooti (an Iraqi-American of Palestinian descent) had me fooled—he had convinced me at the time (we spoke over the phone a couple of times in 2001) that he wasn’t a bad guy. But he also managed to fool three Democratic congressmen who were vocal critics of America’s policy regarding Iraq. But if Saddam’s money found ways to influence the U.S. Congress and convinced certain leftist-leaning representatives to stand against the war then isn’t it reasonable to wonder who else was influenced by this sophisticated and well-funded charm campaign mounted by the Iraqi Intelligence Service? What if it wasn’t Barack Obama’s “sound judgment” that led him to oppose the war? What if he had been influenced by talking points authored in the mukhaberat’s Harthiya HQ that ended up as leftist rhetoric in Chicago?

18 Comments:

Blogger bg said...

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[What if it wasn’t Barack Obama’s “sound judgment” that led him to oppose the war? What if he had been influenced by talking points authored in the mukhaberat’s Harthiya HQ that ended up as leftist rhetoric in Chicago?]

good question TG..

and Obama is involved with so many dubious (to say
the least) characters, i don't know where to start..

how about here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIe4d9Nmg9k

much more here


i'll be back with more later, but meantime.. just keep scrolling down & click on Older Posts as you go.. or check out the side menu for previous posts..

ie: Obama's Alsammarae "fairy tale"

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6:04 PM, March 27, 2008

 
Blogger bg said...

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oops re: bg @ 6:04 PM..

i think the link still works.. but
i'm going to repost it anyways..

Obama-Odinga-Rezko-Ayers-Auchi-Saddam Hussein

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6:08 PM, March 27, 2008

 
Blogger bg said...

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re: [But he also managed to fool three Democratic congressmen who were vocal critics of America’s policy regarding Iraq.

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Barack Obama]

somehow i doubt they were "fooled".. however,
someone was "fooled", only i believe it was US..

CAPTURED FARC COMPUTERS NAME BARACK OBAMA

excerpt:

[6. Gringos ask appointment with the minister to ask us know your interest in talking these issues. Saying that the new president of their country will be Obama, and they are interested in his countrymen. Obama did not support Plan Colombia or signing of NAFTA. Here we responded that we are interested in having relations with all governments on an equal footing and in the case of United States requires public pronouncement in expressing its interest in talking with the FARC given their eternal war with us.]

also be sure to check out the following @ above link..

Previously:

Top FARC Dog Raul Reyes Killed By Colombian Forces

Chavez Warns of War... Says Colombia Is "Israel of South America!"

TENSIONS RISING-- Documents Link Ecuador's President to FARC

EXPLOSIVE NEWS-- Chavez Paid $300 Million to FARC!

Colombia: FARC Has Uranium-- Working On Dirty Bomb!

France Comes Clean... Admits Holding Talks With Dead FARC Terrorist Reyes

Captured FARC Documents Link Democrats to Terror Group

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10:08 PM, March 27, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But if Saddam’s money found ways to influence the U.S. Congress and convinced certain leftist-leaning representatives to stand against the war then isn’t it reasonable to wonder who else was influenced by this sophisticated and well-funded charm campaign mounted by the Iraqi Intelligence Service?

The evidence doesn't match the claim. Nobody has suggested those members of Congress were "influenced" in any way -- there was a trip arranged for them, which they cleared through the House Ethics panel and through the State Department.

All three had opposed the invasion long before that trip, yet you claim that it "convinced [them]to stand against the war." That's obviously not true.

You say yourself they were unaware that the trip was on Saddam's dime. A more accurate rendering of the story is that Hussein felt those lawmakers would have a greater voice in the debate at the time if they were recently returned from a "fact-finding mission."

9:59 AM, March 28, 2008

 
Blogger bg said...

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Anonymous @ 9:59 AM..

US Democrat Now Linked to Oil For Food Scandal

excerpt:

[Al Khafaji also contributed $400,000 to the production of Scott Ritter’s film “In Shifting Sands” on the effects of the UN sanctions. Finally, al Khafaji arranged travel and financing for the “Baghdad Democrats” — Jim McDermott, Mike Thompson and David Bonior — in 2002. Following the trip, al Khafaji contributed $5,000 to McDermott’s Legal Defense Fund. McDermott was under investigation for leaking an illegally recorded Republican telephone conversation. On March 29, 2006, the court ruled 2 - 1 that McDermott violated federal law when he turned over the illegally recorded tape to the New York Times and other media outlets.]

there ya go, connect the dots..

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10:25 AM, March 28, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BG@10:25

Assuming that's true, what dots?

What does McDermott's 12-year legal battle with John Boehner over his leak of a phone conversation about the GOP trying to quash an ethics investigation into Newt Gingrich have to do with the matter at hand?

Are you seriously suggesting that McDermott, who has been consistent in his opposition to military action against Iraq since the first Gulf War, would have supported the 2003 attack if not for $5 grand donated to his legal defense fund?

Seriously? You think he's a closeted pro-war Bush supporter, who only opposed the invasion because he simply couldn't resist the $5K?

And, gatewaypundit's active imagination aside, none of this in any way connects McDermott to Oil-for-Food.

Then again, what can one expect from someone so credulous as to believe the tales spun by Uribe's Magic Laptop (http://www.cipcol.org/?p=556).

10:58 AM, March 28, 2008

 
Blogger bg said...

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FARC Documents

more here..

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11:47 AM, March 28, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aside from indicating that you'll believe any ridiculous story if it conforms to your world-view, the Magic Laptop is really beside the point here. Unless Iraq is located in Latin America.

Let me try asking you directly: Are you seriously suggesting that members of Congress who opposed the invasion of Iraq did so for a few dollars in donations to a legal defense fund, or for a trip to Baghdad, and otherwise would have been supportive of the policy?

That seems to be the implication -- in your comments and in the post above -- and it's a ridiculous suggestion on its face. The decision to go to war or not go to war is pretty serious, no? Or do you not see that?

11:59 AM, March 28, 2008

 
Blogger bg said...

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Jim McDermott: "We Don't Mind Being Used" by Saddam Hussein

excerpts:

[All of this was public record -- available to the lawmakers with a Google or Nexis search. But they went anyway.]

[In any case, they knew well that they would be used as propaganda tools before they left. This is how we put it in a piece on the trip back in October 2002:]

[Once again? "We don't mind being used."]

i believe McDermott (speaking for himself)
not only says it all, but puts it in context..

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12:06 PM, March 28, 2008

 
Blogger bg said...

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oh btw.. if you (or anyone else) believes for one minute that Uribe is going to make all the evidence acquired via the FARC raid.. i've got a bridge i'd like to sell..

ie: You got to know when to hold 'em...

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12:14 PM, March 28, 2008

 
Blogger bg said...

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excuse me but..

"We don't mind being used."

are NOT MY WORDS..

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12:17 PM, March 28, 2008

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BG: "We don't mind being used."

are NOT MY WORDS...


I doubt they're his words either, and if they are they're certainly taken out of context.

Anyway, you seem to be dodging the point, repeatedly. Are you serious in your belief that he and the others only opposed the war for a trip to Baghdad or a small contribution to a legal defense fund?

You don't seem keen on defending that argument, for understandable reasons.

By the way, 133 members of the House voted against the authorization for the war. Would you like to explain how they all cast that vote because McDermott, Bonior and Thompson got a trip to Baghdad? Love to hear it.

And the excerpt from the Weekly Standard blog notwithstanding, the article linked in the post above quotes Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd as saying "investigators 'have no information whatsoever' any of them knew the trip was underwritten by Saddam."

Again, all three cleared the trip through House Ethics and State beforehand and were told it was fine -- a point which you appear to be willfully ignoring.

1:14 PM, March 28, 2008

 
Blogger bg said...

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doubt all you like, that doesn't change the fact one iota..

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1:21 PM, March 28, 2008

 
Blogger bg said...

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FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 455

tell me something i don't know.. Joint Resolution (H.J.Res. 114) passed, done deal..

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1:31 PM, March 28, 2008

 
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