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Friday, May 23, 2008

Red Herring Fatwas

So what happens if the western media can’t spin or sensationalize events in Iraq when not much is happening? Why, they make it up!

The Associated Press put out a wire report yesterday hinting that Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani is about to declare jihad against the Americans. Whhhhhaaaaaat???

Check out the story’s two lead paragraphs:
Iraq's most influential Shiite cleric has been quietly issuing religious edicts declaring that armed resistance against U.S.-led foreign troops is permissible — a potentially significant shift by a key supporter of the Washington-backed government in Baghdad.

The edicts, or fatwas, by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani suggest he seeks to sharpen his long-held opposition to American troops and counter the populist appeal of his main rivals, firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army militia.
The AP report then speculates on what Sistani’s reaction to a violent Martian invasion may look like. Okay, so they didn’t, but they might as well have.

I guess this is what happened: Muqtada al-Sadr declares that he will “demobilize” the Mahdi Army if instructed to do so by the top Shia religious leaders of Qum and Najaf, at the top of whom sits Sistani. He does this as a face-saving ruse, one that is enthusiastically eaten up by the western reporters rooting for him. The top leaders, who don’t like to be dragged into the muck of al-Sadr’s childish antics and hoodlumism, responded very quietly through their traditional backchannels, that since al-Sadr didn’t seek their opinion when he established the Mahdi Army then they are under no compunction to state an opinion on its dissolution.

Not content with this answer, al-Sadr and probably Iran’s PSY-OPS teams tried a different track: they began to ask Sistani questions along the lines of “Do you support motherhood?”

If America’s founding fathers had been asked instead, or even if one peruses the United Nations charter, then the generic question of whether or not it is proper for a nation to resist foreign occupation would have be answered in the affirmative.

That is what Sistani did, saying it so verbally to the individual questioner without publishing it as a written fatwa, which would have made it more binding for the general public. He also didn’t mention the Americans. The AP story itself tells us all this:
It is also unknown whether al-Sistani intended the fatwas to inspire violence or simply as theological opinions on foreign occupiers.

…Al-Sistani's new edicts — which did not specifically mention Americans but refer to foreign occupiers — were in response to the question of whether it's permitted to "wage armed resistance," according to the two Shiites who received them.
But the next step in this PSY-OPS is to find the news outlet that would be more than willing to exaggerate the significance of all of this; a new outlet such as the AP that would have the gall to cite Juan Cole as “a U.S. expert on Shiites in the Middle East” without telling the unsuspecting public that Cole is a very controversial opponent of progress in Iraq, and that even within the left-leaning community of Iraq-watchers he’s considered a discredited kook.

The report reaches the pinnacle of duplicity when it casually adds that:
In perhaps another sign of al-Sistani's hardened position, he has opposed disarming the Mahdi Army as demanded by al-Maliki, according to Shiite officials close to the cleric.
To my eyes, this is Sadrist and Iranian disinformation.

So let me pull rank here and tell you all that I’ve met Sistani. In fact, I sat in on an hours-long conversation between Sistani, his eldest son who runs his father’s daily affairs, Adil Abdul-Mahdi (Iraq’s current Vice-President) and Ahmad Chalabi. This happened in the early spring of 2004. It was an illuminating discussion that delved into law-making, the role of Islam, history, international relations and of course, gossip.

I wasn’t supposed to be in there, but I was. I walked in behind Abdul-Mahdi and Chalabi, both of whom went through the motions of trying to kiss Sistani’s hand, and he yanking it away. I was raised with specific instructions against kissing anyone’s hands, except romantically. So I just shook the Grand Ayatollah’s slender fingers, but in a knee-jerk reaction he pulled it away. That made for an uncomfortable moment of awkwardness as he searchingly looked into my face as to why I behaved differently.

Immediately as we were seated—cross-legged on cushions—Sistani points to me and asks his two other guests, “Who’s this?”

I was later told by the bodyguards that stayed outside the house that a minor commotion had whirled up as a result of hushed questions raised by Sistani’s staff: “who was that young dude that walked in with the politicos?”

When we got up to leave, Abdul-Mahdi and Chalabi again went through the theatrics of customary hand-kissing. When it was my turn, I was face-to-face with the marji’ with my hand out-stretched for a shake, but he wouldn’t take it and instead hugged me and kissed me on both cheeks and said something to me in private that I will cherish and keep to myself.

Dilettantes and the professional tea-readers who pass themselves off as Iraq ‘experts’ have a habit of misreading and exaggerating gestures such as Sistani’s alleged fatwas.

If we’ve learned anything from the recent events in Basra, Sadr City and Mosul—by the way, these are Iraq’s three largest population reservoirs—it should be that the reporters and commentators who are tasked to describe Iraq to American and western audiences are at worst dishonest and duplicious, at best some string puller’s chorus of useful idiots.

It is in this vein that this AP story is released; to distract from other things that could be reported in Iraq, such as how things are dramatically improving and how this war has been decisively won.

Here are two other developments to mull over: al-Sadr is not a rival, not even by a long-shot, to Sistani as the AP supposes. And Sistani is no longer that relevant to politics in Iraq. So many things have changed since 2005, and many observers are still way behind the curve.

Here’s column I wrote about Sistani back in December 2004: Tea, Sympathy and Sistani.

UPDATE: A source close to Sistani denied today (Arabic link) that the Grand Ayotallah's about to announce jihad, saying that Sistani believes that occupation (...in a general sense) must be resisted by peaceful, not military, means under a given set of circumstances.

Don't expect AP to release a retraction, though. Plus, don't expect the punditeers who feverishly linked to the AP fairytale to update their posts either.


Anonymous Anonymous said...


I came to this site today to ask for your reaction to this news story, but once again you have beaten me to the punch and already posted.

Thank you, as always.

10:36 AM, May 23, 2008

Blogger Ditch said...

I first saw this on Cole's site, and the thinly disguised glee with which he discussed it was almost more than I could stomach. The story is blatantly full of holes but sadly it takes a fair amount of knowledge about the situation to know this. Just like with the government's takeover of Mosul, the American public is fed pro-terrorist spin on page 1A while several days later something closer to the truth appears on 17A.

Thank you very much for your efforts.

11:04 AM, May 23, 2008

Blogger Bob said...

I read the article this morning and was thoroughly disheartened. Thanks for presenting the other side.
great blog!

11:39 AM, May 23, 2008

Blogger bg said...


thank you for deconstructing the MSM's propaganda yet once again TG.. (thumbsup)


12:28 PM, May 23, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since I am a skeptic by nature, can you actually prove with photos that you visited Sayed Sistani? I am sorry but i don't consider an Editorial/Opinion piece in the New York Sun as the necessary proof.

And how exactly does one, one hour meeting with Sayid Sistani make you an expert on him?

12:43 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger Nibras Kazimi نبراس الكاظمي said...

Dear anonymous/skeptic by nature,

I can't think of anyone who has a 'meet-n-greet' picture with Sistani. So unfortunately, I can't present documentary evidence. My word will have to do for those who'd have it. Otherwise, I've named others who were at this meeting, so maybe you can verify through them.

Plus, I didn't specify the meeting to one hour; by my recollection it lasted for over two hours.

I didn't claim to be an "expert on Sistani"; by relating that anecdote I aimed to demonstrate that I am better informed that those who 'loftily' claim to be experts on the man. I can't think of anyone who's pontificated on Sistani, including Vali Nasr, to whom I'd defer too in terms of expertise. That may be a touch of delusion, but again it will have to do for those who'd have it.

Moreover, Juan Cole certainly is not on the list of scholars I'd consider "informed".

A lot of the "history" of the 5 year "war" as it is being told still has plenty of gaps in it; one such gap is exactly how did Sistani rise to such prominence in Iraqi politics? I was fortunate to get a front-row seat to that sausage-making episode, but I don't think that enough time has elapsed for me to write about it. All I can tell you is that Nasr's account of it in his book 'Shia Revival' is thoroughly wrong.

Otherwise, I was in close contact with Sistani's top political aides in Baghdad and Najaf before and after this meeting in my former political capacity, and I have maintained contacts even after I left politics. For example, I think that if you search this blog's archives, you'd find that I was the first to report on how Sistani indirectly endorsed the UIA for the Dec. 04 elections.

So, if you remain unconvinced then that's your prerogative. As far as I'm concerned, I answered your question.



1:07 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger bg said...


Anonymous @ 12:43 PM..

The Myths & Facts According To Juan Cole

Yale rejected Juan Cole


[Yale's Senior Appointments Committee voted down the appointment of Juan Cole to the faculty]

funny how all the links to the story seem to have "disappeared" from the info net, go figure..


1:37 PM, May 23, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous/Skeptic ...

This Nibras Kazimi is an incorrigible name dropper as those of us who regularly read his blog can testify.

He is also very young and still brash. As he matures we are in hope that he will attain the wisdom and perspicacity of Professor Cole and might even grow to appreciate the lofty standards of fearless journalism being practised at the AP news desk.

Be kind, Anonymous/skeptic. Give the boy time to grow.

1:44 PM, May 23, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

While you all like to talk about the credibility of Juan Cole being weak,probably because he is doesn't serve the pro-occupation line on his blog, what about the credibility of the Neocon oriented Ahmad Chalabi who Nibras allegedly accompanied with to visit Sayed Sistani? Hasn't Chalabi been discredited beyond repair by now? What exactly was your political capacity before you resigned from politics Nibras? Did you work for the Neocons?

1:49 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger Nibras Kazimi نبراس الكاظمي said...

Dear anonymous,

It turns out that you're not only a skeptic by nature but an idiot by birth-right too.


What part of "New York Sun" and "Hudson Institute" and me consistently defending neocons did you miss?



2:01 PM, May 23, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am obviously not a idiot by birth-right since I guessed right by only reading one of your blogs.

Well so goes your credibility....

Don't you know by now that the Neocons are on their way out, maybe you should consider jumping ship?

Or are Neocons planning to switch to being a NeoLibs?

2:24 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger Lee said...

Lefties allege ambush from the "establishemnt" anytime an antiwar figure is attacked. "You're attacking Juan Cole because just because he opposes occupation and didn't vote for George Bush and doesn't get billions of dollars from big corporations" - this sort of reaction should be almost expected.

The only question here is - does the author of the blog effectively refute Jaun Cole? tT doesn't matter what the other neocons did.

3:21 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger Chris Baker said...

I wondered why would Juan Cole, a supposed "authority" on Shiite's, say a fatwa would likely be issued in a year against the US presence? You would expect conservative Shiite clerics in Iraq would be very concerned about regaining influence in Basra and other Shiite-dominated areas now those areas have been "liberated", with gleeful reports in the US media of liquor soon being publicly for sale etc. The US media unfortunately gives the impression the US military is in Iraq to impose secular political doctrine, when Iraqi's may prefer a system in which clerics have a significant political role at the national or provincial level.

Also trigger-happy US airmen and others killing and maiming innocent Iraqi's is clearly a huge problem which isn't even discussed in the US corporate media. For example ex-President Jimmy Carter said on US national television that he considered the use of force in situations where innocent civilians are likely to be injured as "terrorism", and it's clear many Iraqi's share a similar view. Although Carter was referring to Israel's use of US-supplied helicopter "gun ships" on Palestinians in Gaza, it's exactly the kind of issue that should be debated.

4:13 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger Harrywr2 said...

Let's be fair to the AP.

There favorite chicken little story for the last six months on a slow news day has been "What will happen when the All Powerful Mehdi Army ends
its ceasfire?"

A full divisions worth of Iraq Soldiers in the Streets of Basra and another full division of Iraqi Soldiers in the Streets in Sadr City...along with a couple of thousand members of Sadr's Militia who didn't quite understand the word "ceasefire" permanently ceasing fire by way of the morgue is what actually happened.

So now we need a new chicken little

Someday a giant asteroid will hit the earth...and chicken little will be finally vindicated.

5:40 PM, May 23, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am sure Kazimi can defend himself but as far as I am concerned as a regular visitor to this blog his credibility rests on the number of times he has correctly predicted trends months ahead of everyone else,
the neocon triumphalism does not sit well with me but if that is the price of getting the real story as I do from TG then I will suffer through it,


6:08 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger bg said...


HT : TLWJ (Roggio)

Shi'a Clerics Dispute Sistani "Fatwas" Report


[Sources close to prominent Shi'a clerics in Najaf have expressed "surprise" at reports in the Western media which claim that Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani has issued religious opinions suggesting support of armed resistance against foreign forces in Iraq, going so far as to dismiss the reported rulings as "false", according to a report by an online Iraqi news agency.]


needless to say TG was/is correct..


6:39 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger bg said...


here you go TG.. :)

Iraqis Deny Bogus AP Report On Ayatollah Sistani


[Haider also notes that Sistani has never said the American presence was an "occupation" before although he has called the Al-Qaeda presence in Al-Anbar an occupation force. Sistani stated previously that since the Americans were asked by the elected Iraqi government to assist in security that they are not considered an occupation force.


The AP published this story based on anonymous sources in Iraq.

They did manage to divert attention away from the good news that General Petraeus shared with Congress yesterday.]


7:16 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger Tom W. said...

Mr. Kazimi, you're just too rational and level headed. You'll never make it if you don't screech and thunder, rave and slobber, wail and bloviate, and declare defeat and catastrophe every other day.

chris (us), you said:
"Also trigger-happy US airmen and others killing and maiming innocent Iraqi's is clearly a huge problem which isn't even discussed in the US corporate media. For example ex-President Jimmy Carter said on US national television that he considered the use of force in situations where innocent civilians are likely to be injured as 'terrorism', and it's clear many Iraqi's share a similar view. Although Carter was referring to Israel's use of US-supplied helicopter 'gun ships' on Palestinians in Gaza, it's exactly the kind of issue that should be debated."

Could you please post a translation for those of us who don't speak gibberish?

And please stop pluralizing "Iraqis" as "Iraqi's." I mean, you spelled "Palestinians" right, so I'm sure you can do the same for "Iraqis."

10:28 PM, May 23, 2008

Blogger Don Cox said...

"this war has been decisively won"______I think that is an over-optimistic claim. Look at the graph of Security Incidents since 2004, here. Only when that graph is all zeros will the war be won. That is at least a year or two away, IMO.

5:29 AM, May 24, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

don cox

One flaw with your reasoning: Security incidents include criminal as well as military.

There is always some crime. There is not a country in the world where there are not some "security incidents".

The rates are already less than several countries that are officialy at peace (EG: Venuzuala).

10:21 PM, May 24, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

More from Juan Cole on Huffington Post

Fars News reproduces in Persian on May 24, 2008, another anti-American fatwa by Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani of Najaf. It says that its correspondent in Najaf reports that an Iraqi Shiite submitted the following to Sistani:

'I sell foodstuffs. Sometimes the Occupying Powers or their associates come to my establishment. May I sell them foodstuffs?'
Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani replied:

' Selling foodstuffs to the Occupying Powers is not permitted.'


Sounds like more of the same misinformation to me.

8:53 AM, May 25, 2008

Blogger bg said...


Anon @ 8:53 AM..

LOL.. guess they haven't seen any of the many videos in which Iraqi store owners either offer troops food & drink (i hear it's impolite to refuse) on their own dime, or the troops buying food and/or drink at local markets.. geesh, those anti-Liberation clowns are clearly getting more & more desperate for bad news..

anyone know the last time Juan visited Iraq?? didn't think so!!


9:32 AM, May 25, 2008

Blogger Nibras Kazimi نبراس الكاظمي said...

More on Juan Cole:

This is either playing dumb, or plain dumb:

Check out Cole's Saturday post on the Sistani affair:


Where he writes:

"Al-Sharq al-Awsat writing in Arabic carries a follow-up article on the AP story regarding Sistani's oral rulings on the permissibility of attacking multinational troops in Iraq. The article seems to me to reverse the best practices of journalism. It interviews two Sistani aides, one far away from Iraq in London and one in Najaf. It highlights the London interviewee and relegates the Najaf one to the very end. So I am reversing them:"

What Cole does not realize is that the second half of the Asharq al-Awsat report that he likes so much (...the one with the Najaf source) is actually a word-by-word translation of excerpts from the original Associated Press report. There is no citation of the AP in the Asharq al-Awsat byline, but then again, this Saudi-owned paper--except for a couple of outstanding reporters--is not high on journalistic integrity. For example, they usually re-print NYT, LATimes and WaPo articles and columns after heavy editing and sometimes deliberately changing their meanings.

Just thought that this outght to be pointed out.



9:35 AM, May 25, 2008

Blogger bg said...


AP caught in yet another lie..

HT : TLWJ (Roggio)

Iraqi Army dismantles Mahdi Army caches in Sadr City


[Less than one week after pushing into the northern two-thirds of Sadr City from the walled southern neighborhoods, the Iraqi Army is uncovering substantial weapons caches in the Mahdi Army stronghold. Iraqi and Coalition forces continue to press against the Mahdi Army in Baghdad as the New Baghdad district begins to heat up. [list @ link]

wow, they've been baggin' that ammo at warp speed.. has to run out sooner or later (especially since the overwhelming majority of it either cannot or is not being used thanks to the combined forces, including the SOI)..


[There has been no fighting reported in Sadr City over the past several days as the Iraqi Army takes up positions in strategic areas around Sadr City. On May 23. the Sadrist movement claimed the Iraqi Army is violating the truce and assaulting and mistreating Iraqis during clearing operations in Sadr City. The Associated Press repeated the claims of Mohannad al Gharawi, who is portrayed as a neutral person sent to Sadr City to monitor the truce. But Gharawi is in fact a senior member of the Sadrist movement.]

i don't know how many times the AP needs to be caught red handed lying or twisting the truth, not to mention deliberately spreading propaganda, and not only about Iraq, before the world catches a clue..


9:54 AM, May 25, 2008

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nibras and BG,

Thanks! You're the best! :)

I have to chuckle at the current appearance of desperation on the "left". It is pretty pathetic.

Thanks again.

1:07 PM, May 25, 2008

Blogger bg said...


The Return of Iraq's Ayatollah

facts be damned.. Obamessiah's anti-Iraq Liberation
press club has an agenda, same as it did back when..

CNN's Iraqi Cover-Up

despicable.. gah!!


3:41 PM, May 25, 2008

Blogger bg said...


Iran Stirs Up More Trouble in
Iraq With Dubious Media Report


[Iraqi-American Nibras Kazimi suspected that the Iranian PSY-OPS teams were behind the AP's story.]

hoping you'll have an update or a comment for us TG..


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وغسيل الأوني الطعام أول بأول لاترك في الحوض حتى لاتكون عرضه للأنتشار الحشرات ، وغسل الرخام المطبخ أو سطح المطبخ بنصف ليمونه حتي يزيل الدهون وأثر العفن وثم مسحها جيد بالقماش ،مسح الشفاط المطبخ من أثر الدهون والأترابه المتراكمه عليه وحتي يمكن اسخدمه مرة أخرى لتنقيه الهواء شركة تنظيف واجهات زجاج بالرياض
،و العناية بالثلاجة جيد التي يحفظ بها الأطمعة بتخلص بأي شئ عفن سواء خضروات أو فواكهة أو أطمعة لا مستحبه ، وغسلها جيد بالمطهروالمياه ومسحها جيد من المياه وتركها تجف،و بذلك المطبخ يكون جيد ورايحة ذكية. شركة تنظيف واجهات حجر بالرياض
زيت الافندر يمكن وضع قليل منه للمكنسة الكهربائية الرائحة الجملية سوف تعم المكان .
لتلميع الزجاج يستخدم الخل بورق الجرائد وقليل من الخل ، ويمكن تنظيف الحمام بقليل من عصير الليمون ويضاف الى الماء فينظف ويطهر ويلمع ومع اضافة الخل تكون النتيجة مبهرة ، والخل الأبيض فى تنظيف الرخام والأرضية .

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